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Gale Langley
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Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    I just did a home lead test on a key chain I had ordered from ArtsNow. The key chain was ordered November 2007. It tested positive for over 50 ppm of leachable lead. I'm not sure if the lead was in the key chain itself or in the key ring.

    I'm in the process of contacting ArtsNow about this and will be contacting the CPSA about this. Home tests can be in-accurate, and they can do a better test on it. Hopefully, this was a false positive. Still, I'm taking these items out of my shop and putting the ones I have here up high and away from my children.

    Below are pictures of the key chain and the test....if the cue tip turns color it indicates lead. The darker the color the more lead, and this turned black.


    UPDATE:
    I contacted ArtsNow about this and here is what they said:

    "Our key chains are made of Zinc, and all Zinc product contained lead. However, our product is up to the required European export safety standard.

    I am collecting further data of containing lead, will get back to you later. Thank you."

    ....

    Because the 50 ppm was the highest the lead test I used could measure (and this only measures leachable lead--lead which can off of a finished surface), I assumed this was a dangerous amount. Turns out regular soil has 50 ppm of lead (I did a little more research). Now, the test only said that this had more leachable lead than 50 ppm. So, this doesn't prove that it does have a dangerous level of lead, nor does it prove that it has a safe level, it just shows that in contains at least 50 ppm leachable lead. But I'm relieved to possibly be wrong about these being dangerous.
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8/16/2009 12:54:08 AM

Gale Langley
TotalPost:140
RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    Here's one showing the test paper, although the words came out a little fuzzy you can kind of see the chart:

    http://galesgifts.windhavenweb.com/bloggraphics/leadpaper.jpg

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8/16/2009 12:55:14 AM

George Morrison
TotalPost:160
RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    Interesting stuff! Where do you get these test kits and have you done any other product tests???
8/16/2009 5:08:41 AM

Gale Langley
TotalPost:140
RE:RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    The test I used was the Arbotex Lead Inspector Lead Test Kit. I found out about it through NPR (National Public Radio)...but it's not the first lead kit I've used. It costs about $12 (I think that's like for 12 tests). As a kid my parents bought one and we tested stuff for a science fair project. Found one hand made plate from Mexico that tested positive.

    This was the second ArtsNow item I've tested with it. I tested a mug, which didn't show any lead.



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8/16/2009 6:14:33 AM

laura clark
Title:out of here due to t
TotalPost:343
RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    then don't lick them
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8/17/2009 11:01:07 AM

Gale Langley
TotalPost:140
RE:RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    Yeah, but how many people give their keys to their toddlers to play with when they are stuck somewhere without another form of amusement? It's such a common practice that I've seen it mentioned in parenting magazines. And little kids DO put things like this in their mouths. You really want to sell something that might risk causing a kid to get lead poisoning?
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8/17/2009 10:57:49 PM

Lennie
Title:HANDS OFF! UNCLE!
TotalPost:655
RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    I don't sell the keychains right now. But, definitely interested in hearing what AN says about this. Other than the mug, do you intend to test any other products? My core product is the watches. And I am now concerned with my product. I think I will go locate some of these tests and test my watches.

    Thank you for the information and I am sure I am not the only one that is interested in future updates.

    >I just did a home lead test on a key chain I had ordered from ArtsNow. The key chain was ordered November 2007. It tested positive for over 50 ppm of leachable lead--a level that could be dangerous if say, a child sucked on it, which is not unlikely as parents let their babies play with their keys all the time (I have...but luckily not with this key chain). I'm not sure if the lead was in the key chain itself or in the key ring.
    >
    >I'm in the process of contacting ArtsNow about this and will be contacting the CPSA about this. Home tests can be in-accurate, and they can do a better test on it. Hopefully, this was a false positive. Still, I'm taking these items out of my shop and putting the ones I have here up high and away from my children.
    >
    >Below are pictures of the key chain and the test....if the cue tip turns color it indicates lead. The darker the color the more lead, and this turned black.
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8/17/2009 11:49:29 PM

George Morrison
TotalPost:160
RE:RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    I was searching for those test kits and found a few articles saying that they are not all that accurate. These articles are a couple of years old so maybe the kits are getting better now.

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    Health Canada's Product Safety Laboratory has evaluated a number of home lead test kits available on the Canadian marketplace and found that the results they give are not fully reliable. Test results vary considerably from one brand of test kit to another and are also affected by the type of product or material being tested.

    http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2007/2007_173-eng.php

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    Consumer Reports rates home lead test kits

    The nonprofit Consumers Union recently put five home lead-testing kits to the test and deemed three useful, though limited, as a screening tool for consumers worried about lead contamination in products in and around their home.

    http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/story.html?id=7260920e-dd7e-4f12-be3d-65397776293e

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    Are Home Lead Test Kits Reliable?
    Saturday November 10, 2007
    The simple answer is NO, according to the US Consumer Product Safety Commission, who did a recent staff test study on 4 lead paint test kits on the market. They found that the tested home lead test kits didn't necessarily give the correct results in commonly encountered situations. You can find the details of the lead paint kit study at the CPSC website.

    To cut a long story short, here's what happened. The CPSC found that more than half of the tested results were a false negative. This means that toys with lead paint in them were showing up as safe. They also found that 2 of the test results using a were a false positive, probably because of the red paint ingredient that caused the particular test to malfunction. An alarming finding was that the top coat of paint, if non-leaded, could probably be responsible for the tests not detecting lead, even though lead based paint may lie beneath the layer.

    http://toys.about.com/b/2007/11/10/are-home-lead-test-kits-reliable.htm
8/18/2009 2:44:24 AM

laura clark
Title:out of here due to t
TotalPost:343
RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    Keys are dirty and if parents let kids put them in their mouth well that's just gross I have 5 kids so don't say anything, I never gave my kids keys, futhermore they would have to suck on one of these keychains all day long I don't feel there's any concern here..
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8/18/2009 4:59:19 AM

Fred Virgo
TotalPost:2214
RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    Good afternoon,

    Where I work, I use an XRF scan 'gun'. This tests our products for ROHS compliance for leadm cadmium, etc... It will measure the exact parts per million for all products.

    I did a scan for a t-shirts I got a year ago and alll readings were acceptable.

    As I do not stock keyrings, watches, etc..., I cannot test but I do have a belt buckle that I will bring to work tomorrow and run the gun. I will post my results once done.

    On a side note, this same 'keyring failed the lead test' posting was also posted on one of the CP groups.

    Fred



    >I just did a home lead test on a key chain I had ordered from ArtsNow. The key chain was ordered November 2007. It tested positive for over 50 ppm of leachable lead--a level that could be dangerous if say, a child sucked on it, which is not unlikely as parents let their babies play with their keys all the time (I have...but luckily not with this key chain). I'm not sure if the lead was in the key chain itself or in the key ring.
    >
    >I'm in the process of contacting ArtsNow about this and will be contacting the CPSA about this. Home tests can be in-accurate, and they can do a better test on it. Hopefully, this was a false positive. Still, I'm taking these items out of my shop and putting the ones I have here up high and away from my children.

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    .......
    http://www.fun-tees.com
    http://www.uscolorprint.com/howtomanual/index.html This is a free 'How To' manual which shows you how to setup your AN (and Fun-Tees) store(s). Hope you find it helpful. Membername is: guest Password is: password
8/18/2009 5:39:20 AM

Lennie
Title:HANDS OFF! UNCLE!
TotalPost:655
RE:RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    I agree. I never gave my kids keys to play with. But, that doesn't mean all parents don't. I believe it is the parents' responsibility first to keep their kids safe. But, this really doesn't affect me unless I decide to sell them later. And I don't see having time to add them in the near future.

    >Keys are dirty and if parents let kids put them in their mouth well that's just gross I have 5 kids so don't say anything, I never gave my kids keys, futhermore they would have to suck on one of these keychains all day long I don't feel there's any concern here..
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    So...how's that CHANGE working for you now?
8/18/2009 6:09:03 AM

Gale Langley
TotalPost:140
RE:RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    ArtsNow replied to my message to them about this, and here is what they said:

    "Our key chains are made of Zinc, and all Zinc product contained lead. However, our product is up to the required European export safety standard.

    I am collecting further data of containing lead, will get back to you later. Thank you."

    ....

    So, maybe I jumped the gun. Sorry everyone. Because the 50 ppm was the highest the lead test I used could measure (and this only measures leachable lead--lead which can off of a finished surface), I assumed this was a dangerous amount. Turns out regular soil has 50 ppm of lead (I did a little more research). Now, the test only said that this had more leachable lead than 50 ppm. So, this doesn't prove that it has a dangerous level of lead, nor does it prove that it has a safe level, it just shows that in contains at least 50 ppm leachable lead. But I'm relieved to possibly be wrong about these being dangerous.
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    http://www.squidoo.com/artsnowsales
8/19/2009 5:30:29 AM

Lennie
Title:HANDS OFF! UNCLE!
TotalPost:655
RE:RE:RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    Well, at least we all know now. It is always better to be safe than sorry.

    >ArtsNow replied to my message to them about this, and here is what they said:
    >
    >"Our key chains are made of Zinc, and all Zinc product contained lead. However, our product is up to the required European export safety standard.
    >
    >I am collecting further data of containing lead, will get back to you later. Thank you."
    >
    >....
    >
    >So, maybe I jumped the gun. Sorry everyone. Because the 50 ppm was the highest the lead test I used could measure (and this only measures leachable lead--lead which can off of a finished surface), I assumed this was a dangerous amount. Turns out regular soil has 50 ppm of lead (I did a little more research). Now, the test only said that this had more leachable lead than 50 ppm. So, this doesn't prove that it has a dangerous level of lead, nor does it prove that it has a safe level, it just shows that in contains at least 50 ppm leachable lead. But I'm relieved to possibly be wrong about these being dangerous.
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    So...how's that CHANGE working for you now?
8/19/2009 6:45:18 AM

Fred Virgo
TotalPost:2214
RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    Good afternoon,

    Sorry to be late in posting but as I stated in a previous post, I would bring in my AN belt buckle and test it for lead, cadmium, etc..

    At work, we have what we call an XRF Scan gun (Niton Thermal Analyzer). This gun uses a laser, filters, etc... and will tell you exactly what is in that piece of metal or plastic. As we sell computer products overseas (UK, Germany, etc...), in order to be ROHS compliant, every item that goes into our computer system HAS TO BE verified to meet the European standards. All cables, metal, solder, etc.. is scanned and certified prior to accepting the product to be placed into our inventory. Well, not MY inventory, just the place where I work.

    Anyways, I did the full XRF scan on an AN belt buckle with the below results.

    On the coated side:

    Parts Per Million
    PB (lead) 0
    CR (chromium) 0
    ZN (zinc) 14.7K

    On The metal Side:

    PB (lead) 0
    CR (chromium) 0

    The belt buckle did pass European standards for ROHS acceptance for the 6 major elements.

    As far as keyrings and other products, I did not scan them so I don't know.

    Hope this helps.

    Fred
    Melbourne FL
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    http://stores.shop.ebay.com/USColorprint-Clocks
    .......
    http://www.fun-tees.com
    http://www.uscolorprint.com/howtomanual/index.html This is a free 'How To' manual which shows you how to setup your AN (and Fun-Tees) store(s). Hope you find it helpful. Membername is: guest Password is: password
8/21/2009 5:32:50 AM

laura clark
Title:out of here due to t
TotalPost:343
RE:RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    Thank you Fred for your time in doing the test very much appreciated
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8/21/2009 9:57:56 AM

Gale Langley
TotalPost:140
RE:RE:Artsnow keychain tested positive for LEAD Reply

    Hey Fred. I private messaged you about something related to this, but am not sure how the messaging works, so please let me know if you got it.

    'Gale

    >Good afternoon,
    >
    >Sorry to be late in posting but as I stated in a previous post, I would bring in my AN belt buckle and test it for lead, cadmium, etc..
    >
    >At work, we have what we call an XRF Scan gun (Niton Thermal Analyzer). This gun uses a laser, filters, etc... and will tell you exactly what is in that piece of metal or plastic. As we sell computer products overseas (UK, Germany, etc...), in order to be ROHS compliant, every item that goes into our computer system HAS TO BE verified to meet the European standards. All cables, metal, solder, etc.. is scanned and certified prior to accepting the product to be placed into our inventory. Well, not MY inventory, just the place where I work.
    >
    >Anyways, I did the full XRF scan on an AN belt buckle with the below results.
    >
    >On the coated side:
    >
    > Parts Per Million
    >PB (lead) 0
    >CR (chromium) 0
    >ZN (zinc) 14.7K
    >
    >On The metal Side:
    >
    >PB (lead) 0
    >CR (chromium) 0
    >
    >The belt buckle did pass European standards for ROHS acceptance for the 6 major elements.
    >
    >As far as keyrings and other products, I did not scan them so I don't know.
    >
    >Hope this helps.
    >
    >Fred
    >Melbourne FL
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10/15/2009 1:24:30 PM
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