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Ave Hurley
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New Price Surcharges Reply

    Hi, I am still a newbie to using the site and have members from my art network who are trying to get their free stores set up and I have been helping them to put in their sections and subsections.

    In regards to the new >10% up to 50% profit surcharge. does that mean a we can only charge $.10 on a button? or $.32 on a card? That doesn't seem worth setting up to some of my friends and then they are concerned at the othher end of the spectrum, as we are artists and if I were to buy a blank canvas and draw or paint a picture on it, I wouldn't have to give the art supplier 1/2 of my profit for the painting.

    An original painting might take months to complete so then to get reproductions made normally would not cost 1/2 the profit. Then to attempt to double the markup as to make allowance for the 50% surcharge would drive the price up to where the customer would rather by within the states from another site such as Fine Art America or Redbubble.

    I have a lot of time invested into my site now and into the ones I have been helping to start their own sites but these are artists who already use Fine Art America, Art.com. Zazzle and the rest and I am told this site's programming is very difficult for them to use as it is right now so then when they now see they will not be able to make the markup they feel fair for their work with the attraction being the excellent base prices offered they fear they will be working harder and getting less than they already get on their other Print on Demand sites.

    While I can appreciate ArtsNow needing to charge more for their product, wouldn't it simply be better to raise the base price by 10%-50% and then the artist can see the new price for the item and then be able to charge what they feel their art prints are worth to them without the worry of how much would be deducted as is being called the 'profit surcharge'. In free societies such a surcharge is looked down on and causes people to not want to work as hard if they aren't going to get the money they are working for.

    I prefer to offer all the products that are available, but just the set up to post them for sale is time consuming and to settle for selling the products at 10% higher than cost, will not draw in more buyers. It can have the opposite effect in that they may feel the product is cheap and undesirable. I am sure for example, the watches for sale are as good as Zazzle or Café Press and to sell them 10-20% less than those sites, could bring repeat customers, BUT to sell a watch that on other sites sell for $50 and then offer it here for $10-12 quite reasonably would make the buyer wonder as to the quality and possibly pass the product by and look for one that costs a bit more on another site,as it makes them feel good about the product.

    All I am suggesting is perhaps more guidelines pertaining to the profit surcharge- 10% is too low for items under $5 and 50% may be too much for items over $50. It can cause new limits as to what will be made to sell publicly on the site. I still intend on buying larger canvas prints and painting new details over the prints, so I suppose it wouldn't matter if half the charge was taken back as the product would be most likely coming to me before ever reaching a gallery or customer as I would need to paint new details on most of my work that measures > than 20 x 16 since its common for larger prints to come out either too dark or too light so its better used as a base for a reproduction using mixed media.

    Could there be maybe a better approach to how to charge ? I want to get more artists to sign on and this makes it harder to talk them into switching to our sites.

    Just my thoughts. I am still here for the long haul, just might have to modify what to say is being offered and how and where to offer it.

    What are your thoughts?

    AVe
    www.ArtRaveSuperCenter.com
21/12/2013 10:06:37

Ave Hurley
TotalPost:14
RE:New Price Surcharges Reply

    >Hi, I am still a newbie to using the site and have members from my art network who are trying to get their free stores set up and I have been helping them to put in their sections and subsections.
    >
    >In regards to the new >10% up to 50% profit surcharge. does that mean a we can only charge $.10 on a button? or $.32 on a card? That doesn't seem worth setting up to some of my friends and then they are concerned at the othher end of the spectrum, as we are artists and if I were to buy a blank canvas and draw or paint a picture on it, I wouldn't have to give the art supplier 1/2 of my profit for the painting.
    >
    >An original painting might take months to complete so then to get reproductions made normally would not cost 1/2 the profit. Then to attempt to double the markup as to make allowance for the 50% surcharge would drive the price up to where the customer would rather by within the states from another site such as Fine Art America or Redbubble.
    >
    >I have a lot of time invested into my site now and into the ones I have been helping to start their own sites but these are artists who already use Fine Art America, Art.com. Zazzle and the rest and I am told this site's programming is very difficult for them to use as it is right now so then when they now see they will not be able to make the markup they feel fair for their work with the attraction being the excellent base prices offered they fear they will be working harder and getting less than they already get on their other Print on Demand sites.
    >
    >While I can appreciate ArtsNow needing to charge more for their product, wouldn't it simply be better to raise the base price by 10%-50% and then the artist can see the new price for the item and then be able to charge what they feel their art prints are worth to them without the worry of how much would be deducted as is being called the 'profit surcharge'. In free societies such a surcharge is looked down on and causes people to not want to work as hard if they aren't going to get the money they are working for.
    >
    >I prefer to offer all the products that are available, but just the set up to post them for sale is time consuming and to settle for selling the products at 10% higher than cost, will not draw in more buyers. It can have the opposite effect in that they may feel the product is cheap and undesirable. I am sure for example, the watches for sale are as good as Zazzle or Café Press and to sell them 10-20% less than those sites, could bring repeat customers, BUT to sell a watch that on other sites sell for $50 and then offer it here for $10-12 quite reasonably would make the buyer wonder as to the quality and possibly pass the product by and look for one that costs a bit more on another site,as it makes them feel good about the product.
    >
    >All I am suggesting is perhaps more guidelines pertaining to the profit surcharge- 10% is too low for items under $5 and 50% may be too much for items over $50. It can cause new limits as to what will be made to sell publicly on the site. I still intend on buying larger canvas prints and painting new details over the prints, so I suppose it wouldn't matter if half the charge was taken back as the product would be most likely coming to me before ever reaching a gallery or customer as I would need to paint new details on most of my work that measures > than 20 x 16 since its common for larger prints to come out either too dark or too light so its better used as a base for a reproduction using mixed media.
    >
    >Could there be maybe a better approach to how to charge ? I want to get more artists to sign on and this makes it harder to talk them into switching to our sites.
    >
    >Just my thoughts. I am still here for the long haul, just might have to modify what to say is being offered and how and where to offer it.
    >
    >What are your thoughts?
    >
    >Ave
    >www.ArtRaveSuperCenter.com

    On products such as cards when site automatically defaults a payment of $2 such as on postcards or greeting cards is this profit surcharge applying to small items such as these? With VIP there would be no appreciable profit to even carry these items at such a loss as 50% since they are already not profitable but more of a customer service item to promote the art.

    The item which sells for $1.99 + a $2 default markup would then only give seller $1 ?
    When i buy a canvas for $10 and paint it and the painting which would sell for $100 for example, the supplier of the canvas would have gotten the $10 and I would get the $90 however now it would be $50? This might cause members and new members to not have their art reproduced on this site if this profit surcharge becomes so socialistic~! There are other sites that print the canvas for an established price allowing the artists to make whatever markup t hey choose. it is not fair nor a good idea to charge 50% of the artists work. it would be better if ArtsNow made exact price they wish to charge for reproducing the artists work and not be involved with mark up the artist chooses to charge for their creation.
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