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Enough is enough! Post By Fred - 6/10/2009 7:33:17
Good afternoon all,

Knowing I will incur the wrath of a lot of people, I MUST speak my mind.

Unfortunately, after reading some rude and unqualified posts here from some of the newer members, I will start to speak my mind. I try to explain to all what I think AN is doing and trying to do .I don't have inside information so I can't state any facts but like most of the veterans here, we've all experienced these growing pains and we are all positive that AN WILL get things straight.

As some of the veteran storeowners here may agree with, AN is going thru some growing pains AGAIN, especially with the addition of the AC website. The unique traffic to the AC website has a 4:1 ration to the A website. 4 TO 1!

The black t-shirts are a disaster. So what! Pull them from your sales, replace them with white t-shirts or mousepads. Just don't sell them. Unfortunately we found about this after some of us had made sales. OK. Just tell your customers that due to an unexpected increase in sales, black t-shirts will be delayed and if they wish to wait for them or for a refund.

Posting here and continuously bit**ing about it does nothing! Out of 3000 members in this forum, why does it appear that it's the same few members? You have one member calling AN a scammer, others being callous, etc...

Don't kick the dog when it's down as it will come back to bite you!

An will get their black shirts (I'm sure lesson learned for AN). AN hopefully has realized that their sales from both AN and AC (and possibly the playing card site) was more than they ever dreamed. AN didn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to scam or cheat us. They, including Berry, are a group of investors who plan to be here for a long time. AN needs both AN storeowners and AC customers.

If AN doesn't respond to your e-mails about missing products, quality issues, or other concerns you have, DON'T post these complaints HERE in this forum. AN does NOT read these posts or at the very least, they are ignored.

This forum was closed early this year for 4-5 months for 'maintenance'. I think it was closed due to the same people coming in here and being both nasty and rude. I think AN just got tired of deleting posts and probably figured the best thing to do is close this forum, let it sit for a while, then re-open it. Maybe the rude people will go away. Has anyone noticed that there was only 1 (one) spammer post in this forum since it opened back up?

AN has this forum for US, the storeowenrs. This forum's ONLY purpose is for us to help each other, not to continuously bit*ch about the same things over and over.

In MY opinion, if you get tired of it all, leave AN. Tired of no answers, leave AN. Want to help make a change and MAYBE help make things better for not only us but AN? Then post here with your comments as to what AN could do to help US. If someone called me a scammer or posted a comment ending with WTF, I certtainly would NOT respond to the comment. If I was moderator I would ask for a bit more politeness. If none came forth, he or she is gone.

As this forum is for US ONLY, I can honestly say that AN will NOT respond to comments or questions about where's my order, late deliveries, black shirt snarls, etc... AN has stated in the past that offering tracking number will not happen - should say it all.

I could go on but I thin kit's clear that I'm starting to get disgusted by what's going on here. If you don't like AN, count your losses (or gains) and leave. Join CP, Za, PF, 99Dogs, Spdshrt, etc...

I really enjoy helping others. I have spent many months creating a free How To manual to show how to create your own store, starting from scratch. I have just opened another free webiste which shows you how to setup your own website, online. These are being made free to ALL AN members, not just to my own storeowners. I devote a lot of time trying to help others in here who ask for it.

I seldom answer posts that are duplicate, rude, inflammatory or just plain uncalled for. I read ALL posts and answer only those who need information or it is something that I can contribute to.

Today, after reading a few posts I occured to me that it's the same people with the same bit**es, over and over. To me, it seems that since they've been selling AN products for a few years that they would know that this is a growing thing. Again, the black t-shirts. An messed up with no notice of no shirts. AN says the beginning of October. The beginning is here. Do they have them? AN messed up so let's deal with it and recover.

When the AC website started, I dropped all AN t-shirts as I feared a problem was going to develop due to rapid sales as was evident from the postings on their forum.

I'm getting off the subject here.

Use this forum for helping each other, not riding AN, name calling or just being rude. AN does not visit here as this is OUR(the members) forum. It is not mine, it is all of ours.

Tired of order problems, then leave AN and go somewhere else.

I've had my say so now onto more productive things instead of using my time to make this post.

Fred
Melbourne FL
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RE:Enough is enough! Post By Gary Younkin - 6/10/2009 10:55:08
Hi Fred, I just wanted you to know i totaly agree with you, lately it is all about complaints and im sure getting tired of them being posted for same thing over and over

Ultimally you are right, if you do not want to deal with AN, then leave, real simple.

If you want to stay then expect changes happening with all aspects of AN, no black tshirts, i did not care for the short notice but i got over it and replaced all my black tshirts for white

As far as tracking, not going to happen, so no need to talk about anymore.

Lost orders, wait for AN reply or refund customer and take the loss, I have and just moving forward from it.

Im sure black tshirts should come back, since they are testing full print shirts,maybe longer than early oct, they just gave an estimate of time.

all this ranting and raving seems to be going on when you know they are on holidays until the 3rd

so lets move on from all this, i do not want this forum to go down again,and it is reverted to what we think it went down for a few months, there are plenty of us that contribute to this forum and try and help each other out.


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RE:Enough is enough! Post By sue - 6/10/2009 20:05:10
And you are the boss of this forum because.......?

As you say this forum is for all of us. And if we are having problems with AN we are entitled to speak to other members about it here. This forum is for good and bad, and if us speaking about the problems we are having bugs you that much, just don't read it, simple.


RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By xely - 6/10/2009 21:23:29
And you are the boss of this forum because.......?
>
>As you say this forum is for all of us. And if we are having problems with AN we are entitled to speak to other members about it here. This forum is for good and bad, and if us speaking about the problems we are having bugs you that much, just don't read it, simple.

yeah i think he is the boss of this forum

If AN doesn't respond to your e-mails about missing products, quality issues, or other concerns you have, DON'T post these complaints HERE in this forum. AN does NOT read these posts or at the very least, they are ignored

=we like to post in this forum so other new member that want to join know how this company is running their business.so they will not loss their money

Pull them from your sales, replace them with white t-shirts or mousepads. Just don't sell them. Unfortunately we found about this after some of us had made sales. OK. Just tell your customers that due to an unexpected increase in sales, black t-shirts will be delayed and if they wish to wait for them or for a refund.

=i think you don't know what is really going on here, do you sell some products from here too?
or are you just SVIP member that have a lot of reseller working for you?
some item from 26 august have not arrived till now and you tell your customer to wait?
wait till when?next year?
if you tell us to refund, easy for you to say that , it's our money, not your money.

This forum was closed early this year for 4-5 months for 'maintenance'. I think it was closed due to the same people coming in here and being both nasty and rude. I think AN just got tired of deleting posts and probably figured the best thing to do is close this forum, let it sit for a while, then re-open it. Maybe the rude people will go away. Has anyone noticed that there was only 1 (one) spammer post in this forum since it opened back up?

=people being rude because , their money is being ripped off.
and if we post some our problem here ( shipping delay, item not sent ) then AN decide to close or delete the post, doesn't that mean that they are really scammer?
that is what scammer usually do...when things got messy, they just delete their forum and web then start a clean slate.


In MY opinion, if you get tired of it all, leave AN. Tired of no answers, leave AN. Want to help make a change and MAYBE help make things better for not only us but AN? Then post here with your comments as to what AN could do to help US. If someone called me a scammer or posted a comment ending with WTF, I certtainly would NOT respond to the comment. If I was moderator I would ask for a bit more politeness. If none came forth, he or she is gone.

=of course, i already left
but i don't want new member got into this situation.
so i post in this forum.


Today, after reading a few posts I occured to me that it's the same people with the same bit**es, over and over. To me, it seems that since they've been selling AN products for a few years that they would know that this is a growing thing. Again, the black t-shirts. An messed up with no notice of no shirts. AN says the beginning of October. The beginning is here. Do they have them? AN messed up so let's deal with it and recover.

=great speech, this what i heard from my svip owner too, after taking your subscribe money, making profit with every sales we sell, when things like this happen, all they can do is trying to calm you down, give some motivation to you, trying to keep you under them, and when things got out of control and they can't control you anymore, all they can say is ok, just leave, count your loss bla bla bla ,
but do they really help you getting your money back?
do they really know what's happening with AN?

Tired of order problems, then leave AN and go somewhere else.

=see what i mean?


RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Alan - 7/10/2009 1:56:34
Again, I have to agree with Fred and I speak as I find. Things are not perfect for sure, but there is definately a number of so called members that we could do without here. I suspect to some extent they are the engineers of their own misfortunes. Goodbye to them, but I won't say good luck!!
RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By sue - 7/10/2009 2:07:18
oh wake up. I have been selling artsnow for over 3 years, and this is not the first time they have messed up. Things need to change! Businesses should not mess up like this time and time again and then just fob you off with excuses of it being the post offices fault, or "oh we didn't expect an increase in sales like this" - bulls**t! It's a shambles, do you lot know anything about running a business or do you just like to namby pamby about over things and pretend everything is ok when it isn't??


>Again, I have to agree with Fred and I speak as I find. Things are not perfect for sure, but there is definately a number of so called members that we could do without here. I suspect to some extent they are the engineers of their own misfortunes. Goodbye to them, but I won't say good luck!!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Alan - 7/10/2009 2:26:38
Yes, I had my own business for 20 years employing quite a lot of people and my son has a business with a 30 million dollar yearly turnover, what about you, what's your history?


>ngoh wake up. I have been selling artsnow for over 3 years, and this is not the first time they have messed up. Things need to change!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By BGD - 7/10/2009 4:05:35
>I had my own business for 20 years employing quite a lot of people and my son has a business with a 30 million dollar yearly turnover<

Is this a joke?!
RE:Enough is enough! Post By laura clark - 7/10/2009 5:03:53
well I know all my messages are going unanswered and I have several 9-30 orders still sitting there..there is no excuse here.. if you start a company and have problems they should be worked out before adding several new items..No I don't think their scammers but I do feel they are very ill prepared and need some serious training on customer satisfaction and care, and I think people should post their issues here so others will know if it's happening to them that their not alone on a issue,,but the most recent people posting insults and threats is way out of line..and shows a seriously lack of professionalism..we're all trying to run a business are we not..
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RE:Enough is enough! Post By lilyan hayret - 7/10/2009 5:13:05
Fred, I also agree with you %100.
The threads on the forum are getting out of proportion and being disgusting instead of helpful.
It is nice to know that i am not the only one who is issuing tens of refunds over the last month but i also believe that this is only temporary, AN will find a way to get over this difficult time. As far as i am concerned i now know i need to close my shop on mid nov, so that i won't be stressed over christmas late deliveries. And if the refunds that i give will start to eat my whole income i will find another way to make money online.

And those who are rude to Fred, you should be ashamed of yourself. He answers all questions of the newbies and try to be as helpful as he can.
RE:Enough is enough! Post By leah - 7/10/2009 6:29:48
I just have to agree 100% with Fred.

Long live Fred and AN! ;)

>Good afternoon all,
>
>Knowing I will incur the wrath of a lot of people, I MUST speak my mind.
>
>Unfortunately, after reading some rude and unqualified posts here from some of the newer members, I will start to speak my mind. I try to explain to all what I think AN is doing and trying to do .I don't have inside information so I can't state any facts but like most of the veterans here, we've all experienced these growing pains and we are all positive that AN WILL get things straight.
>
>As some of the veteran storeowners here may agree with, AN is going thru some growing pains AGAIN, especially with the addition of the AC website. The unique traffic to the AC website has a 4:1 ration to the A website. 4 TO 1!
>
>The black t-shirts are a disaster. So what! Pull them from your sales, replace them with white t-shirts or mousepads. Just don't sell them. Unfortunately we found about this after some of us had made sales. OK. Just tell your customers that due to an unexpected increase in sales, black t-shirts will be delayed and if they wish to wait for them or for a refund.
>
>Posting here and continuously bit**ing about it does nothing! Out of 3000 members in this forum, why does it appear that it's the same few members? You have one member calling AN a scammer, others being callous, etc...
>
>Don't kick the dog when it's down as it will come back to bite you!
>
>An will get their black shirts (I'm sure lesson learned for AN). AN hopefully has realized that their sales from both AN and AC (and possibly the playing card site) was more than they ever dreamed. AN didn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to scam or cheat us. They, including Berry, are a group of investors who plan to be here for a long time. AN needs both AN storeowners and AC customers.
>
>If AN doesn't respond to your e-mails about missing products, quality issues, or other concerns you have, DON'T post these complaints HERE in this forum. AN does NOT read these posts or at the very least, they are ignored.
>
>This forum was closed early this year for 4-5 months for 'maintenance'. I think it was closed due to the same people coming in here and being both nasty and rude. I think AN just got tired of deleting posts and probably figured the best thing to do is close this forum, let it sit for a while, then re-open it. Maybe the rude people will go away. Has anyone noticed that there was only 1 (one) spammer post in this forum since it opened back up?
>
>AN has this forum for US, the storeowenrs. This forum's ONLY purpose is for us to help each other, not to continuously bit*ch about the same things over and over.
>
>In MY opinion, if you get tired of it all, leave AN. Tired of no answers, leave AN. Want to help make a change and MAYBE help make things better for not only us but AN? Then post here with your comments as to what AN could do to help US. If someone called me a scammer or posted a comment ending with WTF, I certtainly would NOT respond to the comment. If I was moderator I would ask for a bit more politeness. If none came forth, he or she is gone.
>
>As this forum is for US ONLY, I can honestly say that AN will NOT respond to comments or questions about where's my order, late deliveries, black shirt snarls, etc... AN has stated in the past that offering tracking number will not happen - should say it all.
>
>I could go on but I thin kit's clear that I'm starting to get disgusted by what's going on here. If you don't like AN, count your losses (or gains) and leave. Join CP, Za, PF, 99Dogs, Spdshrt, etc...
>
>I really enjoy helping others. I have spent many months creating a free How To manual to show how to create your own store, starting from scratch. I have just opened another free webiste which shows you how to setup your own website, online. These are being made free to ALL AN members, not just to my own storeowners. I devote a lot of time trying to help others in here who ask for it.
>
>I seldom answer posts that are duplicate, rude, inflammatory or just plain uncalled for. I read ALL posts and answer only those who need information or it is something that I can contribute to.
>
>Today, after reading a few posts I occured to me that it's the same people with the same bit**es, over and over. To me, it seems that since they've been selling AN products for a few years that they would know that this is a growing thing. Again, the black t-shirts. An messed up with no notice of no shirts. AN says the beginning of October. The beginning is here. Do they have them? AN messed up so let's deal with it and recover.
>
>When the AC website started, I dropped all AN t-shirts as I feared a problem was going to develop due to rapid sales as was evident from the postings on their forum.
>
>I'm getting off the subject here.
>
>Use this forum for helping each other, not riding AN, name calling or just being rude. AN does not visit here as this is OUR(the members) forum. It is not mine, it is all of ours.
>
>Tired of order problems, then leave AN and go somewhere else.
>
>I've had my say so now onto more productive things instead of using my time to make this post.
>
>Fred
>Melbourne FL
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By leah - 7/10/2009 6:32:09

>Yes, I had my own business for 20 years employing quite a lot of people and my son has a business with a 30 million dollar yearly turnover, what about you, what's your history?
>

Wowww!!!
RE:Enough is enough! Post By dawn - 7/10/2009 7:12:42
Alright. I agree with many points from people on both sides but I completely see what Fred is trying to say. We are not acting like business people. Instead of anger we should approach our business partner with a PROPOSAL. Instead of demanding or asking for tracking we could sit down individually or brain storm together different reasonable possibilities that could fix the problem. If we think of ourselves as customers then when we are unhappy we take our business elsewhere. We don't demand the company to change for us because they have many people with totally different demands. But if we think of ourselves as business partners we then propose in a detailed plan how we would like a change. But they do have the choice not to accept the proposal. There is definitely a problem with communication and something happened with a lot of orders. So we need to professionally deal with this. And if we don't like how things are being run then we need to find a new drop shipper. That is all we can do. We can't do no more ;)
RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Lennie - 7/10/2009 7:32:09
The solution is easy - ship yourself with tracking. I started doing this back when we went through Christmas '07. No problems since.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Alan - 7/10/2009 7:38:40
No it's not a joke, I'm not a rich man, but my son's doing OK!!

>
>Is this a joke?!
RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By dawn - 7/10/2009 10:29:02
Lennie: So do you order a bunch of your popular stuff and hope it sells or do you wait until people order and then have it sent to you first?

>The solution is easy - ship yourself with tracking. I started doing this back when we went through Christmas '07. No problems since.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Randy - 7/10/2009 14:56:15
I agree with lots of stuff Fred has said. And although, I haven't much help from Fred directly, I think it's quite clear the time and commitment that he puts on this forum. And I'm sure lots of new members especially has benefited from. In fact I don't think he gets enough thanks for what he does. So if anything Thanks Fred from my part.

At the same time I can understand some of the people's frustration if you lost most of your Shirts for some reason. It hasn't happened to be before, but during the christmas holidays I did experience quite a few items that went missing, so I know what it feels like. I actually myself started to build a T-Shirt site, which took me a few months with the designs and all. Cost me a few hundred,only to abandon it after ordering some samples which came out to be crap. So like Fred said, I would just abandon the Shirts all together at least until they announce better quality improves or something of the sort.

Over all and all, I think this more of an issue of criticism. Constructive criticism is good, but just bit*hin doesn't do too much, but then again I do understand the frustration some of the people experience. All in all I think it's just a bad situation, since the new members are not pleased and the old member have heard the same problem complains again and again. It is a pity though AN has yet to improve some aspect of it's product and service as anticipated for a long time. It is a bit overdue, but at the same time we should also consider the growth that AN has experience the past two years.

So ya, there's not much left to say. Everyone just chill and be more friendly and supportive to each other. After all, we are all somewhat in the same boat, and there's no reason why we can't all be successful together.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Alan - 7/10/2009 17:54:06
Well said Sir!!


>
>Over all and all, I think this more of an issue of criticism. Constructive criticism is good, but just bit*hin doesn't do too much, but then again I do understand the frustration some of the people experience. All in all I think it's just a bad situation, since the new members are not pleased and the old member have heard the same problem complains again and again. It is a pity though AN has yet to improve some aspect of it's product and service as anticipated for a long time. It is a bit overdue, but at the same time we should also consider the growth that AN has experience the past two years.
>
>So ya, there's not much left to say. Everyone just chill and be more friendly and supportive to each other. After all, we are all somewhat in the same boat, and there's no reason why we can't all be successful together.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Lennie - 7/10/2009 20:28:54
For the most part, I have most of my orders here. I don't carry too many watches since you never know when the battery will die. Though starting in October and March, I do order watches. I do alot of fairs and festivals; a flea market during the summer. I also donate alot to various local charities or our library and school when they are raising money. So, pretty much, everything I have on hand is sold within 3 months of purchasing. If something isn't moving, I do a CLEARANCE SALE auction. The only items I don't ship myself is anything going to other countries than the US.

The bulk of my items are mouse pads, charms, lighters, earrings and dogtags.

After Thanksgiving, I close my ebay store and only run auctions on what I have here.

It won't work as well for those outside of the US. But, it works quite well for me.

>Lennie: So do you order a bunch of your popular stuff and hope it sells or do you wait until people order and then have it sent to you first?
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>>The solution is easy - ship yourself with tracking. I started doing this back when we went through Christmas '07. No problems since.

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RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Fred - 8/10/2009 5:33:53
"And you are the boss of this forum because.......?" No, I am not moderator or boss of this forum. All of us memmbers are the boss. We help and police each other to keep this forum productive.

"And if we are having problems with AN we are entitled to speak to other members about it here" I agree 100%

"This forum is for good and bad, and if us speaking about the problems we are having bugs you that much, just don't read it, simple." - I agree and I have no problem with that. My opinion is, the same few people are posting over and over about the same problem. All I'm stating is 'Give It A Rest!'. The horse is dead!

Now, what are we going to do about Xmas? Do we stock our own inventory? Do we contine to sell on Ebay? Should we prepare for the black shirts so when they become available, we can sell them? How many black t's in stock - sgould we sell them? How do I deal with customers who have been waiting since Aug-Sep for their orders?

What have we done to take care of all of storeowners and/or store customers? Have we notified them?

Fred




>And you are the boss of this forum because.......?
>
>As you say this forum is for all of us. And if we are having problems with AN we are entitled to speak to other members about it here. This forum is for good and bad, and if us speaking about the problems we are having bugs you that much, just don't read it, simple.
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RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Afi - 8/10/2009 13:43:23
>"And you are the boss of this forum because.......?" No, I am not moderator or boss of this forum. All of us memmbers are the boss. We help and police each other to keep this forum productive.
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>"And if we are having problems with AN we are entitled to speak to other members about it here" I agree 100%
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>"This forum is for good and bad, and if us speaking about the problems we are having bugs you that much, just don't read it, simple." - I agree and I have no problem with that. My opinion is, the same few people are posting over and over about the same problem. All I'm stating is 'Give It A Rest!'. The horse is dead!
>
>Now, what are we going to do about Xmas? Do we stock our own inventory? Do we contine to sell on Ebay? Should we prepare for the black shirts so when they become available, we can sell them? How many black t's in stock - sgould we sell them? How do I deal with customers who have been waiting since Aug-Sep for their orders?
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>What have we done to take care of all of storeowners and/or store customers? Have we notified them?
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>Fred
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>>And you are the boss of this forum because.......?
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>>As you say this forum is for all of us. And if we are having problems with AN we are entitled to speak to other members about it here. This forum is for good and bad, and if us speaking about the problems we are having bugs you that much, just don't read it, simple.
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Snap! you nailed it Fred.
So, any strategies for the upcoming xmas sales? I heard there's going to be a rush on sales. was AN usually can keep up the rush order each year? this is going to be my first Xmas year with AN. :)
Thanks Fred.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Fred - 9/10/2009 8:39:49
Hi Afie,

My strategy is to first see how fast AN gets the black t-shirts in stock and available so we can sell. This will tell me if AN is on the ball or 'side tracked'.

If AN gets going, then I would start to market the black t's and STOP selling them, especially on Ebay, by the 30th of November. Why? Figure it might take 2-4 days to get printed, 10-18 business days to get delivered depending on location of the customer. The 25 day window MIGHT be enough but then again, we don't know if our own USPS will bog down or what.

I think AN will do ok for us in deliveries for this Xmas season but for my own preference, I'd like to give them some leeway.

However, if you stock your own then you could determine when to stop as you would ship the orders yourself.

My guess is, with the addition of Artscow to the family, sales for AN as a whole, probably doubled if not tripled since last xmas. I think that even with AC in the family, AN has done pretty good until the messup with the black shirts and the delivery issues from mid Aug - Sep, of which I got hit to.

I hope this helps but must remind you that I am not AN, I don't work for AN and I do not have any inside information. What I say is only my opinion based on past performance and watching the unique vistors to both websites to get a feel an what's growing in AN.

Fred


>So, any strategies for the upcoming xmas sales? I heard there's going to be a rush on sales. was AN usually can keep up the rush order each year? this is going to be my first Xmas year with AN. :)
>Thanks Fred.

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http://www.uscolorprint.com/howtomanual/index.html This is a free 'How To' manual which shows you how to setup your AN (and Fun-Tees) store(s). Hope you find it helpful. Membername is: guest Password is: password
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By dawn - 9/10/2009 10:59:22
I think it really says something about Artsnow to have non-employees going up to bat for them. They do give us an opportunity we couldn't otherwise have.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Afi - 9/10/2009 11:13:03
Noted. thanks Fred.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Alan - 9/10/2009 14:49:07
I've highlighted your very important point, so true.



They do give us an opportunity we couldn't otherwise have.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By sue - 15/10/2009 18:46:43
well that opportunity for me is now gone, ebay account restricted due to 9 neg feedback and mounds of unreceived item complaints. thanks artsnow. brilliant business

>I've highlighted your very important point, so true.
>
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>They do give us an opportunity we couldn't otherwise have.
>

RE:Enough is enough! Post By BerryAC - 27/10/2009 15:20:01
hi Fred,

My writing is not that good, I can understand what you say 100%, but I don't know how to reply it, lol.

Thanks for your 3 years continuous support with AN.

To run a real drop shipping company is not easy actually, we have 70 staff (including 20 staff in Hong Kong, 50 staff in China) today to serve our ArtsNow members, and ArtsCow orders. There are lots of problems/situations we need to resolve, in order to get everything running smoothly.

Our sales increase 1000% (yes 1000%) in these years. It is not easy to keep all items in stocks, difficulties or out of stock problems maybe happen. We did try our best to resolve them.

We are so happy that photo bags are available to our members. This photo bag production line had spent us 6 months to establish, and it can support 300 photo bags order everyday, if order increase, we can add another production line.

The more new products added, the more difficult to control and do production. However, the wide selection of products did help ArtsNow and our resellers to generate more sales. Every week, we are adding new staff to help us grow better. And it will reach 100 staff definitely by the end of 2010.

Thanks all you guys here.


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Berry
CEO & Executive Director
ArtsNow.com
Re: Enough is enough! Post By rowan - 27/10/2009 17:05:39
HI Berry, good to hear from you.

I have never had any trouble with AN and am happy to be patient with growing pains but I think many others would also be more understanding if we had more communication from you when you are having a bit of trouble or delays. Please either place more information/updates on our 'home page' or in the forums and I think you will find a lot less complaining.
I understand that you have problems when you give us more products, keep up the good work.
Cheers,
Rowan
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http://www.donkeydelights.com
RE:Re: Enough is enough! Post By sue - 27/10/2009 20:18:59
well it's ok if you haven't had any problems, you are very fortunate, but those of us that have had problems should be listened to, not told to shut up.


>HI Berry, good to hear from you.
>
>I have never had any trouble with AN and am happy to be patient with growing pains but I think many others would also be more understanding if we had more communication from you when you are having a bit of trouble or delays. Please either place more information/updates on our 'home page' or in the forums and I think you will find a lot less complaining.
>I understand that you have problems when you give us more products, keep up the good work.
>Cheers,
>Rowan
RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Lennie - 27/10/2009 20:42:57
This is good that your company is doing very well. And problems will happen. That is when there needs to be open communication. We don't know there is a problem until it is almost too late to fix it. If you know of a shortage or other problem, the best thing to do is to let us know as soon as you know. Even with the language barrier, communication is the key to ALL of our success!
>
>Our sales increase 1000% (yes 1000%) in these years. It is not easy to keep all items in stocks, difficulties or out of stock problems maybe happen. We did try our best to resolve them.
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RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Fred - 28/10/2009 5:57:04
Hi Berry,

Glad to see you here, even for a short time.

Believe it or not, YOUR comments and information are not only appreciated but what you say about production, expansion, etc... means a lot to every one of us. With the comments you made, we can get an idea of what's going on with AN and hopefully appreciate the growing pains you are going thru. It's not easy growing this fast.

If I might suggest, instead of answering specific comments posted in the forum, perhaps you might address a few of the current issues below:

1. If possible, before you run out of stock or drop inventory, please post a note in the forum to let us know.

2. Customer service - I do understand how hard it is for both the storeowners and the AN personnel to communicate. I see the problems that some storeowners have is, when they e-mail or communicate with the AN customer service people, the answers the customers get is sometimes, rather rude or of no value. When a customer asks about an order not being received or an item of poor quality, the answers from the customer service at AN is 'don't like it, don't order'. I feel sure that is not how it was meant. If there some way in which answers could be a bit more helpful and meaningful, that would certainly help.

3. Setting guidelines on returns from customers. As noted in the forum, the 5% for resellers doesn't quite cut it. For free and VIP storeowners, it appears they have no recourse. I remember a few years ago when I had defects or missing products in shipments, AN ALWAYS responded with 'we will send a replacement' and THEY DID. Is it possible that that policy could came back or new arrangements made?

4. Late shipments - When the shipment problem arose from mid August to mid September, we received no word from AN about this. All we ask is, if there is a problem with shipping, late orders, no or low inventory, that you post a note in our forum so we at least know about it. Believe me, I honestly believe EVERYONE here will work with you and adjust our sales accordingly. It's when we don't know that drives us crazy.

5. Most of us here understand the growing pains you are going thru. All of us are with you and will do everything we can to help you but we ask only to be better informed about inventory, late shipments, customer service improvements, better quality control from all operators, etc...

Speaking only for myself, I'm very glad to be with AN and am proud to be an SVIP manager.

You, your investment group, staff and all storekeepers have a potential gold mine in their hands. I know, and so do you, that we can beat the pants off Cafe____s, Za___e, Pri____ion and the others. You've got the products, manufacturing proceses, personnel, etc.. If we, the storeowners, are better informed (good or bad news), better customer service, fair refund policy, accurate and improved shipping, etc..., then every storekeeper can have the complete confidence to really start selling.

Ebay. As you know, a lot of us do sell on ebay but some are getting killed due to late shipping, no shipping, poor quality products received, etc... If we are informed when anything happens, we can adjust our product listings in Ebay. I have been recommending to other members here that instead of the standard 1-2 days for production, to increase it to 2-4 days. Shipping times are listed at 10-14 business days - change it to 1 to 3 weeks (maybe a few days longer with the holidays coming up.

In a nutshell, the easiest, safest, fastest and correct way to answer the many questions in this forum and from your customers is to keep everyone informed. We do need your help in this and YOU (AN), are the only one's who can help. Good or bad news, I think everyone here will not only appreciate it but benefit from it.

I apologize for this long post but I hope this may help.

Fred
Melbourne FL

PS: I plan to be with the growing ArtsNow family for a very long time and plan to grow with you.

Thank you for the opportunity.

>hi Fred,
>
>My writing is not that good, I can understand what you say 100%, but I don't know how to reply it, lol.
>
>Thanks for your 3 years continuous support with AN.
>
>To run a real drop shipping company is not easy actually, we have 70 staff (including 20 staff in Hong Kong, 50 staff in China) today to serve our ArtsNow members, and ArtsCow orders. There are lots of problems/situations we need to resolve, in order to get everything running smoothly.
>
>Our sales increase 1000% (yes 1000%) in these years. It is not easy to keep all items in stocks, difficulties or out of stock problems maybe happen. We did try our best to resolve them.
>
>We are so happy that photo bags are available to our members. This photo bag production line had spent us 6 months to establish, and it can support 300 photo bags order everyday, if order increase, we can add another production line.
>
>The more new products added, the more difficult to control and do production. However, the wide selection of products did help ArtsNow and our resellers to generate more sales. Every week, we are adding new staff to help us grow better. And it will reach 100 staff definitely by the end of 2010.
>
>Thanks all you guys here.
>
>
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http://www.sell-online-how-to.com/
....... New website to teach you how to create your own website and sell online. All free.
http://www.fun-tees.com
http://wholesale.toonsign.com/index.html We now wholesale/dropship over 7000 products. Add these products to your Ebay store!
http://www.uscolorprint.com/howtomanual/index.html This is a free 'How To' manual which shows you how to setup your AN (and Fun-Tees) store(s). Hope you find it helpful. Membername is: guest Password is: password
RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Knickknacks4less - 28/10/2009 7:36:41
I cannot tell you how good it was to read a post from Berry. Some of us old timers remember when Berry was on this forum VERY frequently and when Berry was the one answering questions on MSN.

As Fred said, we very much appreciate the communication. We do get a sense that something will happen when we see that Berry has been in the forum because if Berry knows about the issue...the issue will get fixed. Please try to post more often if you can find time in your busy schedule!!
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RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Gary Younkin - 28/10/2009 11:52:25
Hi Berry, well I for one appreciate any news coming from AN, there growth is happening fast and every business got obstacles and always looking for ways of improving, im not on ebay anymore, but getting my own site going and went full force with Bonanzle, the site is freindly and there forums are helpful and love the instant chat, where you can talk and answer questions right there on the spot. being on there also I saw an option for me to sell my design services as some on there sell banners, web headers, and all sorts of self promo tools.
I am trying to check on a project of mine to work with Bonanzle to bring more awareness of the site, I invite anyone to come there and set up shop, its free to set up, so there is no loss if nothing sells and a plus to get a sale.
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RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By BerryAC - 29/10/2009 10:11:52
Dear Fred and all others,

Thanks for your suggestions and comments.

I just assigned RUBY to monitor this forum all the time everyday, if there are some problems or delays, we will inform you guys by email and through this forum.

Since company grows up so fast, I can't answer all MSN messenger or emails myself for a long time, lol. But I do understand your needs and your concerns. I will be here more frequently, and let you know the latest status and news of ArtsNow.com.

Thanks again.








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CEO & Executive Director
ArtsNow.com
RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Lennie - 30/10/2009 1:31:50
Isn't it Ruby that everyone seems to have a problem with? From what I read, she doesn't have very good customer service skills. Not someone I would put in charge.
>
>I just assigned RUBY to monitor this forum all the time everyday, if there are some problems or delays, we will inform you guys by email and through this forum.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Fred - 30/10/2009 6:17:19
Hi Berry,

I welcome Ruby to the forum and will help as best as I can.

Hopefully she will read past posts that we members have been making and get a feel for what our concerns are.

I think everyone here will support her and give all of us an opportunity to see how she can work with the storeowners in the forum. On the same note, I'm hoping that all of us storeowners will treat her well.

I appreciate you taking the time to inform us and to have Ruby here.

Fred


>Dear Fred and all others,
>
>Thanks for your suggestions and comments.
>
>I just assigned RUBY to monitor this forum all the time everyday, if there are some problems or delays, we will inform you guys by email and through this forum.
>
>Since company grows up so fast, I can't answer all MSN messenger or emails myself for a long time, lol. But I do understand your needs and your concerns. I will be here more frequently, and let you know the latest status and news of ArtsNow.com.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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http://www.sell-online-how-to.com/
....... New website to teach you how to create your own website and sell online. All free.
http://www.fun-tees.com
http://wholesale.toonsign.com/index.html We now wholesale/dropship over 7000 products. Add these products to your Ebay store!
http://www.uscolorprint.com/howtomanual/index.html This is a free 'How To' manual which shows you how to setup your AN (and Fun-Tees) store(s). Hope you find it helpful. Membername is: guest Password is: password
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Knickknacks4less - 30/10/2009 7:49:37
Thanks Berry.

Even though Ruby is going to be assigned, please stay in touch with us - even if on an infrequent basis. It is always refreshing and good to read your posts.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By sue - 31/10/2009 2:14:05
I agree with Lenny. Everytime i have had a reply that i have been unhappy and frustrated with, it has been from Ruby.


>Thanks Berry.
>
>Even though Ruby is going to be assigned, please stay in touch with us - even if on an infrequent basis. It is always refreshing and good to read your posts.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Lennie - 1/11/2009 8:09:58
Once or twice a month - just checking in and saying hi - would be good. Most of us won't feel like we have been abandoned.

>Thanks Berry.
>
>Even though Ruby is going to be assigned, please stay in touch with us - even if on an infrequent basis. It is always refreshing and good to read your posts.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Lennie - 1/11/2009 8:10:59
Maybe things will change for the better.

>I agree with Lenny. Everytime i have had a reply that i have been unhappy and frustrated with, it has been from Ruby.
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>>Thanks Berry.
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>>Even though Ruby is going to be assigned, please stay in touch with us - even if on an infrequent basis. It is always refreshing and good to read your posts.

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RE:Enough is enough! Post By Carolyn Clement - 16/12/2009 10:56:25
AN ROCKS!!!! TIRED OF COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT!!!! I OWN A GAME MERCHANDISE STORE ON EBAY AND HAVE A 99.5% FEEDBACK AND A POWERSELLER. EVERY NOW AND THEN I ISSUE REFUNDS FOR SLOWER SHIPMENTS BUT ALL IN ALL AN HAS ENABLED ME TO RUN A PART TIME BUSINESS FROM HOME!!! ( WHICH IS GREAT WHEN YOU HAVE A 3 YEAR OLD SON) :):) I HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW . AROUND CHRISTMAS I RECEIVE MORE COMPLAINTS BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT HAS BEEN GREAT.... ON MY HOMEPAGE I EXPLAIN THAT ITEMS ARE SHIPPED FROM OVERSEAS AND MAY TAKE UP TO 3 TO 4 WEEKS FOR DELIVERY; PROBLEM SOLVED!!!! LEAVE AN IF YOU AREN'T HAPPY WITH IT; THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY.
RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By bob mcclelland - 17/12/2009 6:14:53
>AN ROCKS!!!! TIRED OF COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT!!!! I OWN A GAME MERCHANDISE STORE ON EBAY AND HAVE A 99.5% FEEDBACK AND A POWERSELLER. EVERY NOW AND THEN I ISSUE REFUNDS FOR SLOWER SHIPMENTS BUT ALL IN ALL AN HAS ENABLED ME TO RUN A PART TIME BUSINESS FROM HOME!!! ( WHICH IS GREAT WHEN YOU HAVE A 3 YEAR OLD SON) :):) I HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW . AROUND CHRISTMAS I RECEIVE MORE COMPLAINTS BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT HAS BEEN GREAT.... ON MY HOMEPAGE I EXPLAIN THAT ITEMS ARE SHIPPED FROM OVERSEAS AND MAY TAKE UP TO 3 TO 4 WEEKS FOR DELIVERY; PROBLEM SOLVED!!!! LEAVE AN IF YOU AREN'T HAPPY WITH IT; THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY.


Dont slate those of us who have paid AN the money and are waiting and waiting for packages to arrive while at the same time refunding irrate customers!
RE:Enough is enough! Post By Carolyn Clement - 17/12/2009 10:04:18
I apologize:( Yes i have had to issue myself over 30 refunds in the past two years; now i am worried about how many i will have to issue this christmas season???? yes tracking on packages would be a great advantage. I put a good bit of the blame on paypal though with it's resolution process( doesn't really look out for the sellers)
RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Lennie - 17/12/2009 10:27:08
Ebay/Paypal doesn't seem to give care about the sellers. And the scammers out! I don't think I have ever been hit this bad.

>I apologize:( Yes i have had to issue myself over 30 refunds in the past two years; now i am worried about how many i will have to issue this christmas season???? yes tracking on packages would be a great advantage. I put a good bit of the blame on paypal though with it's resolution process( doesn't really look out for the sellers)

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RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Carolyn Clement - 20/12/2009 14:43:11
>Ebay/Paypal doesn't seem to give care about the sellers. And the scammers out! I don't think I have ever been hit this bad.
>
>>I apologize:( Yes i have had to issue myself over 30 refunds in the past two years; now i am worried about how many i will have to issue this christmas season???? yes tracking on packages would be a great advantage. I put a good bit of the blame on paypal though with it's resolution process( doesn't really look out for the sellers)
> Having problems with items sent to argentina and brazil???? 6 weeks on some??? anyone else having this same problem?????????????
RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Alan - 20/12/2009 16:18:56
A large proportion of ebay buyers are lacking in intelligence and literacy, although that may not actually be their fault. So it does not matter WHAT DISCLAIMER you put on you listings, or how many emails you send them, they either don't read them or don't understand them. No matter how simple you try to make the message!!

You can communicate until your fingers drop off with many people and it doesn't make a scrap of difference. I have much good feedback relating to communication, but my reputation is slowly being eroded by items not arriving after 5 weeks or more and by stupid and dishonest people.

Yes, as you can tell I am very angry, because I am now spending a large proportion of my valuable time, returning money or trying to communicate with people!!

Also as many say, the ebay/paypal reconciliation system, as their feed back, is totally and unfairly biased towards the buyer.
RE:Enough is enough! Post By Dave Hughes - 20/12/2009 18:59:30
Well Im fed up with this bollocks...so what if the company has grown 1000%....deal with it....we are your customers and we are getting a raw deal....i have sent an email with no reply and spent over $11k with AN this year....where is the loyalty. For all the items that do not arrive by Xmas i will be placing PAYPAL disputes against AN....i did not want to do this but hey this is business its nothing personal. I dont see why i should be out of pocket...i have lost a small fortune this past month in giving refunds and making apologies and receiving negative feeback. Whlst AN business rockets by 1000% so does my -ve feedback....I suggest if anyone else is disgruntled to do what i will do.....enter Payapl disputes....Dave
RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By bob mcclelland - 20/12/2009 20:37:53
Just got an email from a customer that the t shirt they ordered on 26th october arrived yesterday 19th december! Can you believe this! It took AN nearly 2 months to post a t shirt! How can you state 12 working days on this website for deliveries and expect us to keep customers happy?
RE:Enough is enough! Post By Pixie - 22/12/2009 2:22:10
I'll probably get slammed for this, but I haven't experienced that much trouble this holiday season, and I ordered about $2000 worth of AN products this last month.

If you are telling buyers who purchased in mid-Nov to still wait, well then you will get negative feedback. Refund the buyers for the non-deliveries. And before you open Paypal disputes, be honest and figure out if your loss (ie, the money you paid out of pocket and NOT INCLUDING your markup profit) is more than 5% of all your sales the past year. Because I never had to refund anyone from my sales Jan-Oct.

Christmas time always stinks. There's no way around it. I personally sent something via USPS 1st Class from California to Texas with tracking number, and it took 2 weeks to arrive. That's not even an international transaction.

One of my buyers from USA who ordered on Dec 7th received their item today. I'm hoping that is not a fluke and a sign of calmer waters ahead.
RE:Enough is enough! Post By MDP - 9/1/2010 4:36:05
Thanx Fred for saving me the time to type the same thing... (and for all your other many informational & helpful posts.)

>Good afternoon all,
>
>Knowing I will incur the wrath of a lot of people, I MUST speak my mind.
>
>Unfortunately, after reading some rude and unqualified posts here from some of the newer members, I will start to speak my mind. I try to explain to all what I think AN is doing and trying to do .I don't have inside information so I can't state any facts but like most of the veterans here, we've all experienced these growing pains and we are all positive that AN WILL get things straight.
>
>As some of the veteran storeowners here may agree with, AN is going thru some growing pains AGAIN, especially with the addition of the AC website. The unique traffic to the AC website has a 4:1 ration to the A website. 4 TO 1!
>
>The black t-shirts are a disaster. So what! Pull them from your sales, replace them with white t-shirts or mousepads. Just don't sell them. Unfortunately we found about this after some of us had made sales. OK. Just tell your customers that due to an unexpected increase in sales, black t-shirts will be delayed and if they wish to wait for them or for a refund.
>
>Posting here and continuously bit**ing about it does nothing! Out of 3000 members in this forum, why does it appear that it's the same few members? You have one member calling AN a scammer, others being callous, etc...
>
>Don't kick the dog when it's down as it will come back to bite you!
>
>An will get their black shirts (I'm sure lesson learned for AN). AN hopefully has realized that their sales from both AN and AC (and possibly the playing card site) was more than they ever dreamed. AN didn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to scam or cheat us. They, including Berry, are a group of investors who plan to be here for a long time. AN needs both AN storeowners and AC customers.
>
>If AN doesn't respond to your e-mails about missing products, quality issues, or other concerns you have, DON'T post these complaints HERE in this forum. AN does NOT read these posts or at the very least, they are ignored.
>
>This forum was closed early this year for 4-5 months for 'maintenance'. I think it was closed due to the same people coming in here and being both nasty and rude. I think AN just got tired of deleting posts and probably figured the best thing to do is close this forum, let it sit for a while, then re-open it. Maybe the rude people will go away. Has anyone noticed that there was only 1 (one) spammer post in this forum since it opened back up?
>
>AN has this forum for US, the storeowenrs. This forum's ONLY purpose is for us to help each other, not to continuously bit*ch about the same things over and over.
>
>In MY opinion, if you get tired of it all, leave AN. Tired of no answers, leave AN. Want to help make a change and MAYBE help make things better for not only us but AN? Then post here with your comments as to what AN could do to help US. If someone called me a scammer or posted a comment ending with WTF, I certtainly would NOT respond to the comment. If I was moderator I would ask for a bit more politeness. If none came forth, he or she is gone.
>
>As this forum is for US ONLY, I can honestly say that AN will NOT respond to comments or questions about where's my order, late deliveries, black shirt snarls, etc... AN has stated in the past that offering tracking number will not happen - should say it all.
>
>I could go on but I thin kit's clear that I'm starting to get disgusted by what's going on here. If you don't like AN, count your losses (or gains) and leave. Join CP, Za, PF, 99Dogs, Spdshrt, etc...
>
>I really enjoy helping others. I have spent many months creating a free How To manual to show how to create your own store, starting from scratch. I have just opened another free webiste which shows you how to setup your own website, online. These are being made free to ALL AN members, not just to my own storeowners. I devote a lot of time trying to help others in here who ask for it.
>
>I seldom answer posts that are duplicate, rude, inflammatory or just plain uncalled for. I read ALL posts and answer only those who need information or it is something that I can contribute to.
>
>Today, after reading a few posts I occured to me that it's the same people with the same bit**es, over and over. To me, it seems that since they've been selling AN products for a few years that they would know that this is a growing thing. Again, the black t-shirts. An messed up with no notice of no shirts. AN says the beginning of October. The beginning is here. Do they have them? AN messed up so let's deal with it and recover.
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>When the AC website started, I dropped all AN t-shirts as I feared a problem was going to develop due to rapid sales as was evident from the postings on their forum.
>
>I'm getting off the subject here.
>
>Use this forum for helping each other, not riding AN, name calling or just being rude. AN does not visit here as this is OUR(the members) forum. It is not mine, it is all of ours.
>
>Tired of order problems, then leave AN and go somewhere else.
>
>I've had my say so now onto more productive things instead of using my time to make this post.
>
>Fred
>Melbourne FL
RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Dave Hughes - 9/1/2010 18:01:49
Fred...you mention CP, ZA, 99 dogs etc...are these made up sites or do they exist ?
RE:Enough is enough! Post By rowan - 9/1/2010 19:54:35
These are real sites (you just can't type the whole names here on the forum), For more info check out www.podreviews.info for basic reviews of about 50 other POD sites.

Rowan


>Fred...you mention CP, ZA, 99 dogs etc...are these made up sites or do they exist ?

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RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Dave Hughes - 9/1/2010 20:41:55
The link did not work for me...what does POD mean ... maybe i can google that...cheers
RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Fred - 9/1/2010 21:39:13
Good morning,

POD means Print On Demand.

The link is http://www.podreviews.info/

Hope this helps.

Fred


>The link did not work for me...what does POD mean ... maybe i can google that...cheers

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http://www.toonsign.com/index.html - Ready To Use Cartoons - Images - Clipart from a variety of artists to place on your AN products.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:Enough is enough! Post By Dave Hughes - 9/1/2010 21:51:46
Brillaint.....what i am seriosuly lacking is designs so that is most useful...cheers
RE:Enough is enough! Post By rowan - 10/1/2010 8:02:03
Thanks Fred for that. I was tired and just put in the .com by habit
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